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Chunky Munkey
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Posted - 2014.05.08 10:37:00 -
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I think it's only right that the login screen for Dust contains some information about the halt to its development.
There's no telling just how many regular players don't actually know that the future they've been playing for no longer exists on PS3.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Chunky Munkey
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Posted - 2014.05.08 10:42:00 -
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Mojo XXXIII wrote:It almost seems like they don't want people to know! Buy more Aurum! One more time, for the people in the back: A lie of omission is still a lie!
Yeah, if they do any more Aurum sales without informing their players it will be a disgrace. . . . well . . . more of a disgrace.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Chunky Munkey
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:34:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:There was no promise of such to begin with when you downloaded it. YOU decided to go on CCP's website and buy into their bullshit. The product you downloaded from Sony did not promise all these things.
And I'm sure Sony will force them to do something if they plan on shutting it down, which right now is NOT the case.
If anything there was more promise to those who did not follow news/forums. I'm reluctant to keep repeating this on different topics, but the trailers for Dust514 are full of content that this game does not have, and which we now know will never get.
If the lobby shooter experience was all this game was billed on, there would have been a fraction of even its smallest player numbers.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:37:00 -
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Zeekoh wrote:Nstomper wrote:You act like those updates are going to something serious dude we are only getting bug fixes and other **** yes **** nothing more. Anyway you can take that legion filth over to the legion section of the forum . Okay... have you followed DUST since the beginning? Do you know that this game isn't even half of what they were aspiring to when they began? What they were striving for is practically impossible on the PS3. Let me mention this too. I only have access to a low-end laptop which won't even be capable of playing Legion when it comes out due to it's Intel graphic's chip. If I want to continue playing after Legion comes out I'll have to buy an entirely new computer. Wonder why I'm not jumping on the band wagon with the rest of you and acting like this is the end of DUST. If you ever gave a s*** about DUST and what it was MEANT TO BE from the very beginning, then you would agree with the release of Legion.
Only if it was guaranteed a release on PS4. Otherwise Legion is a slap in the face to both Sony and its customers.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:38:00 -
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Ender Storm wrote:Zeekoh wrote:You people are so damn stupid. If CCP didn't want people to know, then why would they reveal Legion in the first place? You idiots are acting like DUST has been abandoned and it's not going to be supported by CCP for at least a few more years. DUST even has updates coming out later this year and a few improvements as well. At this stage Legion may not even become it's own game! Although it's unlikely that it won't. Not to mention the PS3 isn't a permanent platform and Sony will take the PS3 servers down and use them for something else as soon as it starts costing them more money than it makes them. Here's something all of you obviously don't understand... CCP doesn't need to employ underhanded tactics to get your money. They aren't hard pressed to steal your cash. They don't need it. The simple fact is that EVE has over 500,000 active monthly subscribers and the money they make from DUST is pocket change. http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/3/5678596/Project-Legion-Dust-514-CCPLiterally anything that you buy with real money that is applicable to Legion, when it comes out, will be transferable. You aren't losing anything. It's nobodies fault but your own if you don't know how to properly invest your money and read ToS policies. While you are all telling people not to buy things because it's a waste, and not to play this game anymore, take into consideration that you're a moron and don't know what you're talking about. You're just spreading the hysteria and it's god damn ridiculous how all of you are acting. LOL, your are right of course. What I see hapening is, CCP shows what they are doing for the future, new POSSIBLE game, Dust still going as a REAL, ONGOING game. People freak out, stop spending money because the sky is falling. Situation changes, and Dust makes no more money, players drop. CCP sees that Dust isnt worth it, then really drop the game. Its kind of a self realizable profecy, and if Dust ends sooner than latter, players are the only ones to blame.
That's like blaming the troops when the general is responsible for the fail cascade.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:50:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:You know, not everone spends money on this game expecting that they will get anything more out of it than what ever in game product they are buying.
I totally agree CCP messed up, big time with the way they announced all of this. However some of you really are starting to gain a sense of self entitlement here. Don't go down that route.
Again I hear the "entitlement" line as though it's going to shut down the opposing argument.
The game was sold on its potential. Not a day went by when speculation on the next patch wasn't a topic on the front page of these forums. Growth was central to its appeal. So you're damn right people feel entitled, and so they should. CCP sold us a box full of promises, and now you try telling us that we shouldn't have expected anything inside!?!?
GTFO man.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Chunky Munkey
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:54:00 -
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Zeekoh wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Only if it was guaranteed a release on PS4. Otherwise Legion is a slap in the face to both Sony and its customers. As much as I love my Playstations and all the little benefits Sony provides over Microsoft, Sony habitually slaps it's own customers in the face. I've always thought it was a mistake releasing DUST on the PS3. As I've stated, the PS3 is not a permanent platform and neither will the PS4 be a permanent platform. By the time a PS5, or whatever it will be, comes out, PS3's servers will most likely be offline or used for the PS4. DUST should have been created for the PC in the first place, but seeing how it turned out, I'm glad that it wasn't. Either way, if you all insist on having DUST or Legion on consoles, this argument will inevitably come up again and again as this type of game is doomed to failure on consoles. All due to the fact that they are NOT a permanent platform like PC's. That means that each console will inevitably die off and close it's servers. Cutting off all possible new players joining the game and maybe even your ability to connect to CCP's servers to play the game in the first place. This IS what would happen. 10-20 years from now we will STILL be using PC's. Albeit with newer parts and operating systems. However, 10-20 years from now, where's the PS3 gonna be? Where's the PS4 gonna be in 10 years? I'd wager nearing the end of it's era. You don't honestly expect CCP to completely remake the game every time a console is released do you? Potentially losing a vast majority of it's player base in the process? That's absolutely absurd....
It's pointless talking about how much better off Dust would have been on PC. It isn't on PC, and what CCP is dealing with now is the consequence of that decision.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:39:00 -
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Ender Storm wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Ender Storm wrote:Zeekoh wrote:You people are so damn stupid. If CCP didn't want people to know, then why would they reveal Legion in the first place? You idiots are acting like DUST has been abandoned and it's not going to be supported by CCP for at least a few more years. DUST even has updates coming out later this year and a few improvements as well. At this stage Legion may not even become it's own game! Although it's unlikely that it won't. Not to mention the PS3 isn't a permanent platform and Sony will take the PS3 servers down and use them for something else as soon as it starts costing them more money than it makes them. Here's something all of you obviously don't understand... CCP doesn't need to employ underhanded tactics to get your money. They aren't hard pressed to steal your cash. They don't need it. The simple fact is that EVE has over 500,000 active monthly subscribers and the money they make from DUST is pocket change. http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/3/5678596/Project-Legion-Dust-514-CCPLiterally anything that you buy with real money that is applicable to Legion, when it comes out, will be transferable. You aren't losing anything. It's nobodies fault but your own if you don't know how to properly invest your money and read ToS policies. While you are all telling people not to buy things because it's a waste, and not to play this game anymore, take into consideration that you're a moron and don't know what you're talking about. You're just spreading the hysteria and it's god damn ridiculous how all of you are acting. LOL, your are right of course. What I see hapening is, CCP shows what they are doing for the future, new POSSIBLE game, Dust still going as a REAL, ONGOING game. People freak out, stop spending money because the sky is falling. Situation changes, and Dust makes no more money, players drop. CCP sees that Dust isnt worth it, then really drop the game. Its kind of a self realizable profecy, and if Dust ends sooner than latter, players are the only ones to blame. That's like blaming the troops when the general is responsible for the fail cascade. No its liek someone spreading rumors about a market crash, people start to sell and run to the banks, they guess what, markets end crashing because the people freaking out and not becaus eth emarket was trully crashing.
That would only be a fitting analogy if CCP were the ones spreading the rumours.
They've taken development time from Dust, and given it to a project which they are not even sure will become a fully fledged project. In short; they've ditched the bird in the hand, for one bird in the bush. That should tell you how little the bird in he hand is worth to them.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:48:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote:You know, not everone spends money on this game expecting that they will get anything more out of it than what ever in game product they are buying.
I totally agree CCP messed up, big time with the way they announced all of this. However some of you really are starting to gain a sense of self entitlement here. Don't go down that route. Again I hear the "entitlement" line as though it's going to shut down the opposing argument. The game was sold on its potential. Not a day went by when speculation on the next patch wasn't a topic on the front page of these forums. Growth was central to its appeal. So you're damn right people feel entitled, and so they should. CCP sold us a box full of promises, and now you try telling us that we shouldn't have expected anything inside!?!? GTFO man. You know, and I know that this is all because Legion is on PC. What if they had have announced Legion for PS4. Would people be going up in arms about how they feel betrayed and all of this? Of course not. All of the console fanboys from here to Molden Heath would be celebrating. Were getting something a lot more like we expect, something a lot more like the vision that was originally spoke about. This is just pure hate for PC`s from the console kids. To Clarifiy - its been a common topic throughout the year about Dust going over to PS4. What's the difference? You are going to have to have different hardware regardless. DUST on the PS3 was something people knew would not last. TLDR - Consoles suck balls, moving to PC is the clear choice for any EVE product in my eyes.
Lol, way to change topic and abandon your argument.
The move to PC is a big deal because it's leaving behind so many of the players who helped build the game in the first place. I have no animosity toward PC, although folks like yourself are helping me develop some for its advocates.
And let's not forget that billing this as a "new" game, rather than a continuation of the current one gives CCP a lot of ways to renege on obligations we would have otherwise kicked up a stink about.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.18 11:23:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote:You know, not everone spends money on this game expecting that they will get anything more out of it than what ever in game product they are buying.
I totally agree CCP messed up, big time with the way they announced all of this. However some of you really are starting to gain a sense of self entitlement here. Don't go down that route. Again I hear the "entitlement" line as though it's going to shut down the opposing argument. The game was sold on its potential. Not a day went by when speculation on the next patch wasn't a topic on the front page of these forums. Growth was central to its appeal. So you're damn right people feel entitled, and so they should. CCP sold us a box full of promises, and now you try telling us that we shouldn't have expected anything inside!?!? GTFO man. You know, and I know that this is all because Legion is on PC. What if they had have announced Legion for PS4. Would people be going up in arms about how they feel betrayed and all of this? Of course not. All of the console fanboys from here to Molden Heath would be celebrating. Were getting something a lot more like we expect, something a lot more like the vision that was originally spoke about. This is just pure hate for PC`s from the console kids. To Clarifiy - its been a common topic throughout the year about Dust going over to PS4. What's the difference? You are going to have to have different hardware regardless. DUST on the PS3 was something people knew would not last. TLDR - Consoles suck balls, moving to PC is the clear choice for any EVE product in my eyes. Lol, way to change topic and abandon your argument. The move to PC is a big deal because it's leaving behind so many of the players who helped build the game in the first place. I have no animosity toward PC, although folks like yourself are helping me develop some for its advocates. And let's not forget that billing this as a "new" game, rather than a continuation of the current one gives CCP a lot of ways to renege on obligations we would have otherwise kicked up a stink about. I did no such thing, I just jumped straight to the point. I mean you just confirmed my thoughts right there. If the game was to go to the PS4 they would still be leaving behind many of the players. However , and I could be wrong, but I get the feeling most players would not see PS4 as abandoning the PS3. Besides they will still work on PS3 DUST. some features may get implemented for both games. Not only that Rouge talked about things they are working on that they want to release over the coming months. Its not what people expected for the PS3 granted. Some people thought this would go the way of PS4. I for one am glad it is going back to PC because EVE is PC. Half of the players that play DUST came from EVE, a good portion of us were influence to buy a PS3 because primarily of DUST so dont think we dont understand. I am just happy because it is going to where it should have been from day one. EVE players funded DUST, EVE = PC its only logical after DUST`s failings that they go back to the PC. Oh by the way, the EVE experience as a whole was never stated as a console only experience. Look at the bigger picture and its not so bad. However I have an obviously bias standpoint as I came FROM PC to the lack lustre PS3.
You just did it again!
This is apologetics of the most shameless variety. You seem to think that if it's best for the game then it totally justifies screwing people over.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Chunky Munkey
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Posted - 2014.05.18 17:25:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:I think it's only right that the login screen for Dust contains some information about the halt to its development.
There's no telling just how many regular players don't actually know that the future they've been playing for no longer exists on PS3. Considering they aren't even informed of it in the first place... Seriously people... Who cares.
Well I was going for the moral angle in my OP. Evidently that doesn't appeal to you.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Chunky Munkey
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Posted - 2014.05.20 11:44:00 -
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Not entirely sure how that is relevant.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Chunky Munkey
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Posted - 2014.05.21 15:15:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:I hope their 10 year plan consists of receiving dogshit in the mail.
*spits out coffee*
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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